a PROOF of God's EXISTENCE

Post by Dale
A TESTABLE THEORY
if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL, then, everything IN the brain is
EXISTENTIAL too
also, ALL fictional/mythical/imaginary/religious things that EXIST
within the brain, like God, are EXISTENTIAL, AT LEAST within the
individual mind set or conscious
if there is a collective conscious, then, all things thought of, exist
in the mind set of ALL individuals, EVERYWHERE THERE IS A BRAIN, AT LEAST
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions and influence
conceptions and the brain, not far off is conceiving of God and
interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

Dale has been consistent through the year and ends it as he began it
with meaningless anti-grammatical twaddle. My filter grow ever
longer as he changes e-mail addresses.

b.

THE COLONEL

2013-12-31 18:12:00 UTC

I think someone should "reinterpret" yer brain, pickle face.
LOL

b***@m.nu

2013-12-31 20:03:02 UTC

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:09:28 -0500, Dale

Theroy is quickly proven false by this rational.
1. The definition of existential that applies to your use of the word
is this. <b : having being in time and space>

2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

3.Learn what words actually mean before you actually believe what some
preacher/priest tells you.

Dale

2014-01-01 00:05:21 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

unless you are saying that "thinking" exists outside of the brain in
some type of central server like a God's mind, I would entertain a
discussion like this

Post by b***@m.nu
Problem is of course that this approach gives you_all_ the gods, and
elves, unicorns, Cthulhu etc too. "X exists" becomes simply a trivial and
uninteresting statement, true for (almost all?) X. "How" they exist by
contrast, and how that affects the logic of statements about them,
becomes a quite interesting question.

the effect is the same, the stories might be different, then again if
you imagine a particular story to be true, that story IS existential as
well WITHIN the brain, AT LEAST

perhaps there is an overarching reality of God OUTSIDE THE BRAIN, but I
can't think of a proof of it

as well, even our EXPERIENCE of our senses of what is OUTSIDE THE BRAIN,
in your conscious, is your brain's INTERPRETATION AND REFLECTION of your
senses, not necessarily what is OUTSIDE THE BRAIN

can you think of a proof that anything exists outside the brain?

not that nothing does, but if you start saying that you have to PROVE
that God exists as something OUTSIDE the conscious, THEN, you have to
prove that ANYTHING exists outside the brain to maintain that critique
of God in particular

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-01 08:49:47 UTC

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:05:21 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

Ok I will say this again. Thought does NOT take up space.

Post by Dale
unless you are saying that "thinking" exists outside of the brain in
some type of central server like a God's mind, I would entertain a
discussion like this

Ok I am sorry I said anything in the first place I now see you are a
theist nutjob

yup total nutjob

Post by Dale
as well, even our EXPERIENCE of our senses of what is OUTSIDE THE BRAIN,
in your conscious, is your brain's INTERPRETATION AND REFLECTION of your
senses, not necessarily what is OUTSIDE THE BRAIN
can you think of a proof that anything exists outside the brain?

yeah I am looking at my desk I feel the floor I see the light. Yup
pretty sure stuff exists outside the brain

Post by Dale
not that nothing does, but if you start saying that you have to PROVE
that God exists as something OUTSIDE the conscious, THEN, you have to
prove that ANYTHING exists outside the brain to maintain that critique
of God in particular

hey did you see santa flying th other day? Have you seen harry potter
doing his magic? have you seen the keebler elves making thier cerael?
Can you prove that any of those exist outside the brain? Can you prove
they dont?

Dale

2014-01-01 17:14:13 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
n Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:05:21 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

Ok I will say this again. Thought does NOT take up space.

so the brain has infinite capacity for such things?

you are saying that thoughts are invisible and mystical

of course, if you are a materialist, thoughts are material and take up
space and time like all other things

--
Dale

Y-Knot

2014-01-01 22:02:32 UTC

Who fucking cares...

***************************************************

Post by b***@m.nu
n Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:05:21 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

Ok I will say this again. Thought does NOT take up space.

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-01 22:36:24 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:14:13 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
n Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:05:21 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

Ok I will say this again. Thought does NOT take up space.

so the brain has infinite capacity for such things?
you are saying that thoughts are invisible and mystical
of course, if you are a materialist, thoughts are material and take up
space and time like all other things

well to be honest noone knows the max storage capacity of the brain.
It is very possible that the same cell can store more than one memory
noone may ever know. No I am saying that a thought can occupy the same
area as say another thought. havent you ever thought of 2 things at
one time? in order for something to occupy time it must age. Does an
actual thought age? Sure the nurons age and the cells age but the
actual thought does it age? how is it an old man can remember
something that he did when he was 5 just like it happend yesterday but
he may have trouble remembering what he had for dinner last night.

Dale

2014-01-02 02:10:49 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:14:13 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
n Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:05:21 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
2.The brain does infact exist in time and space; however, thinking
doesnt.

my point is that thoughts and thinking ARE part of the brain as a whole,
which is existential, so the PARTS of the whole, like thoughts and
thinking are therefore existential TOO

Ok I will say this again. Thought does NOT take up space.

so the brain has infinite capacity for such things?
you are saying that thoughts are invisible and mystical
of course, if you are a materialist, thoughts are material and take up
space and time like all other things

I'm turning 50 in February, I experience this some already ...

--
Dale

Sir Fred M. McNeill

2014-01-01 00:36:36 UTC

Dale

2014-01-01 02:13:17 UTC

Post by Sir Fred M. McNeill

There are probably higher dimensional information structures(whatever that
means). Said higher dimensional informational structures could well be messing
with the universe. In that context, 'humans' are probably epiphenomenal.
In that context 'humans' need their stories, including "God" stories. Our
hunter-gatherer evolution made us so, for pragmatic reasons.
Maybe replace existential with emergent, and you can
expand that universal concept to, well....life, the universe
and everything else (that matters) imho.

imho this is an true option to what I proposed

I proposed the brain was existential, and thoughts being a part of the
brain whether "real" or imaginary, are EXISTENTIAL

maybe we don't think

maybe we just "react" according to what is placed in us in conception,
our DNA, and what is stored in our brain's, etc., along the way

you could consider God the "central server" of thoughts/fate, and all of
us the "reactant" followers of God's thoughts/fate, this falsifies my
original proposal in a religious way

replace God with "the external physics" in the above statement and you
have falsified my original proposal in an atheistic way

I guess I follow your assertion when I have fear of God that we are
emergent, but anyway, my proposal is testable and falsifiable with your
proposal

--
Dale

Sir Fred M. McNeill

2014-01-01 18:45:39 UTC

Post by Sir Fred M. McNeill

imho this is an true option to what I proposed
I proposed the brain was existential, and thoughts being a part of the
brain whether "real" or imaginary, are EXISTENTIAL
maybe we don't think
maybe we just "react" according to what is placed in us in conception,
our DNA, and what is stored in our brain's, etc., along the way
you could consider God the "central server" of thoughts/fate, and all of
us the "reactant" followers of God's thoughts/fate, this falsifies my
original proposal in a religious way
replace God with "the external physics" in the above statement and you
have falsified my original proposal in an atheistic way
I guess I follow your assertion when I have fear of God that we are
emergent, but anyway, my proposal is testable and falsifiable with your
proposal

Hubris serves 'us', though it need not be objective.

k***@baawa.com

2014-01-01 03:54:03 UTC

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:09:28 -0500, Dale

I'm thinking of an imaginary number that doesn't exist. What is it?

Isn't this fun?

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

Dale

2014-01-01 04:58:27 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:09:28 -0500, Dale

I'm thinking of an imaginary number that doesn't exist. What is it?
Isn't this fun?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA

I brought up imaginary numbers before ...

if they are EXISTENTIAL then we should have 8 axes instead of 4

but putting all seriousness aside, this kind of stuff does make it fun
and I am sure it is for God's sake and not ours due to the ups and downs
in mortal's lives

--
Dale

Dale

2014-01-01 05:17:52 UTC

Post by k***@baawa.com
Isn't this fun?

to some communal type people religion and laws forthcoming are VERY serious

sometimes I wonder if the motivation of SOME atheists is to avoid
communal responsibility

personally I think fair competition is every area outside human need,
with a moderate safety net, is a better solution than socialism, as all
large implementations have shown, maybe Cuba is small enough to suceed

but to me that just makes me more communally responsible

some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

--
Dale

Jeanne Douglas

2014-01-01 05:39:44 UTC

Post by k***@baawa.com
Isn't this fun?

to some communal type people religion and laws forthcoming are VERY serious
sometimes I wonder if the motivation of SOME atheists is to avoid
communal responsibility
personally I think fair competition is every area outside human need,
with a moderate safety net, is a better solution than socialism, as all
large implementations have shown, maybe Cuba is small enough to suceed
but to me that just makes me more communally responsible
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

Are you really this stupid and hateful?

--
JD

"If our country is going broke, let it be from
feeding the poor and caring for the elderly.
And not from pampering the rich and fighting
wars for them."--Living Blue in a Red State (seen on Facebook)

Joel

2014-01-01 17:44:01 UTC

Post by Dale
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

Are you really this stupid and hateful?

Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

--
Joel Crump

Free Lunch

2014-01-01 18:02:45 UTC

Post by Dale
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

Are you really this stupid and hateful?

Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Joel

2014-01-01 18:26:43 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers. It's like the
saying, "God helps those who help themselves" - he respects and
admires individual initiative. Atheists tend to be intelligent.
They are often very creative, efficient people.

--
Joel Crump

Dale

2014-01-01 20:42:33 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

in the Bible it says that "those that seek the truth" are the same as
Christian believers, maybe because they find the same ends, just
different means along the way

I pick and choose pieces and parts from the variety of religions and
philosophies for my own religion, so far

--
Dale

Free Lunch

2014-01-01 21:49:01 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 15:42:33 -0500, Dale

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

in the Bible it says that "those that seek the truth" are the same as
Christian believers, maybe because they find the same ends, just
different means along the way
I pick and choose pieces and parts from the variety of religions and
philosophies for my own religion, so far

Syncretism is the one way to get every believer to hate you even more
than they hate atheists. Atheists are merely unbelievers. Syncretists
are heretics.

duke

2014-01-01 22:10:02 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

It's like the

Post by Joel
saying, "God helps those who help themselves" - he respects and
admires individual initiative. Atheists tend to be intelligent.
They are often very creative, efficient people.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
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Free Lunch

2014-01-01 22:17:46 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

Post by duke
It's like the

Post by Joel
saying, "God helps those who help themselves" - he respects and
admires individual initiative. Atheists tend to be intelligent.
They are often very creative, efficient people.

duke

2014-01-02 18:09:05 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Les Hellawell

2014-01-02 18:29:41 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

So the only solution to this dilemma is to hold np beliefs about gods.
the standard atheist solution

Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

duke

2014-01-05 17:19:45 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

So the only solution to this dilemma is to hold np beliefs about gods.
the standard atheist solution
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

Post by Les Hellawell
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Les Hellawell

2014-01-05 18:20:06 UTC

Post by Les Hellawell
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

Since it is the key to stupidity

--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

duke

2014-01-07 22:57:56 UTC

Post by Les Hellawell
<there be snipage>

Post by Les Hellawell
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

Since it is the key to stupidity

Don't say I didn't warn you.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-05 18:52:22 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

So the only solution to this dilemma is to hold np beliefs about gods.
the standard atheist solution
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

because nothing taught about that god can be supported by evidence.

duke

2014-01-07 22:58:58 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

So the only solution to this dilemma is to hold np beliefs about gods.
the standard atheist solution
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

because nothing taught about that god can be supported by evidence.

You're here, aren't you?

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-07 23:38:42 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

So the only solution to this dilemma is to hold np beliefs about gods.
the standard atheist solution
Neither a theist nor a contratheist be

Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

because nothing taught about that god can be supported by evidence.

You're here, aren't you?

Aside from your unsubstantiated assertions, you have never made any
effort to tie your claim that God exists to the existence of the
universe or life on earth.

You have not made an argument. You have no supporting evidence.

b***@m.nu

2014-01-05 20:17:16 UTC

Post by duke
Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

DUKE YOU STUPID FAT FUCK NOONE GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO TALK. When it is
your turn to talk we will all let you know. UNTIL THEN STFU

duke

2014-01-07 22:59:25 UTC

Post by duke
Faith in almighty God and his teachings is the key.

DUKE YOU STUPID FAT FUCK NOONE GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO TALK. When it is
your turn to talk we will all let you know. UNTIL THEN STFU

Now I know why you're angry.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-02 18:55:44 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

Why do I need to support my lack of belief in all of the gods that are
unsupported by evidence?

duke

2014-01-05 17:20:24 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

Why do I need to support my lack of belief in all of the gods that are
unsupported by evidence?

Answer: You can't. That's why your claim to be an atheist is so silly.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-05 18:54:06 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

Why do I need to support my lack of belief in all of the gods that are
unsupported by evidence?

Answer: You can't. That's why your claim to be an atheist is so silly.

I see you are still lying to yourself about the definition of atheist.

An atheist is someone who does not believe in any gods.

duke

2014-01-07 23:00:19 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

Why do I need to support my lack of belief in all of the gods that are
unsupported by evidence?

Answer: You can't. That's why your claim to be an atheist is so silly.

I see you are still lying to yourself about the definition of atheist.
An atheist is someone who does not believe in any gods.

No, an atheist believes there is NO God.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-07 23:39:18 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no evidence that your
god exists. Why do you try to change the subject?

You have made it absolutely clear that you have no support what so ever that
God does not exist.

Why do I need to support my lack of belief in all of the gods that are
unsupported by evidence?

Answer: You can't. That's why your claim to be an atheist is so silly.

I see you are still lying to yourself about the definition of atheist.
An atheist is someone who does not believe in any gods.

No, an atheist believes there is NO God.

You have been misled and repeat this falsehood for no valid reason.

b***@m.nu

2014-01-08 00:58:52 UTC

Post by duke
No, an atheist believes there is NO God.

Ok dune first let me say you are an idiot and then I will inform you
that once a gain you are speaking out of turn. NOONE SAID THE STUPID
PEOPLE IN TH CROWD COULD TALK.
now that has been said I will tell you what exactly an atheist is.
since I have told you this exact definitioin before I am sure it will
not be the last time. After all your god likes to keep its slaves
stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence
of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position
that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of
belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism,
which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity
exists.

belief requires faith. atheists REJECT A BELIEF...... did you read
that shit face REFECT BELIEF........
FUCKING IDIOT

Post by duke
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b***@m.nu

2014-01-05 20:20:05 UTC

Post by duke
Answer: You can't. That's why your claim to be an atheist is so silly.

NOONE GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY>>> BTW STILL NOT YOUR TURN TO
TALK

b***@m.nu

2014-01-01 22:41:45 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

ATTENTION:

EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

duke

2014-01-02 18:09:52 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

Is that because they never blame God for the evil they do?

Well, atheists tend to be rational, logical thinkers.

Really!! They proudly pronounce there is no God, but lack so much as a smidgen
of evidence to make that statement. They lie.

oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

b***@m.nu

2014-01-02 19:58:48 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist. So you give me your
beswt evidence for the reasons that god exists then I will give you
proof that it doesnt. and after you have compiled all your data be
sure to add in an explanation of why is it your god exists and the
greek gods dont and the egyptian gods and the norse gods and the
native american gods.
Then after you are done with that part of the response then I want you
to explain to me why that guy next to you in church has a different
god than you do. Also please explain which of those 2 are actually the
real gods or do you count them both as real? and after that pleease
explain why is it the god that your priest believes in is actually
different than the god yyou believe in and which of those are real and
then lastly explain to me why when your dumb ass religon says do not
worship any other god but the one true god you people <chathicks>
acknowledge at least 4 seperate beings as idols and deitys that are
prayed to and worshiped

duke

2014-01-05 17:21:43 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist.

I have it.

Post by b***@m.nu
So you give me your
beswt evidence for the reasons that god exists then I will give you
proof that it doesnt.

Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

and after you have compiled all your data be

Post by b***@m.nu
sure to add in an explanation of why is it your god exists and the
greek gods dont and the egyptian gods and the norse gods and the
native american gods.
Then after you are done with that part of the response then I want you
to explain to me why that guy next to you in church has a different
god than you do. Also please explain which of those 2 are actually the
real gods or do you count them both as real? and after that pleease
explain why is it the god that your priest believes in is actually
different than the god yyou believe in and which of those are real and
then lastly explain to me why when your dumb ass religon says do not
worship any other god but the one true god you people <chathicks>
acknowledge at least 4 seperate beings as idols and deitys that are
prayed to and worshiped

Free Lunch

2014-01-05 18:54:42 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist.

I have it.

You repeat that falsehood a lot, but you know that you are lying to us.

Post by b***@m.nu
So you give me your
beswt evidence for the reasons that god exists then I will give you
proof that it doesnt.

Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

No evidence exists for creation.

Post by duke
and after you have compiled all your data be

b***@m.nu

2014-01-05 20:22:35 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist.

I have it.

still waiting for your evidence

Post by duke
Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

dumbass go back and read other threads this has been done so many
times. However I will justcounter by saying if god creaated alll thing
what created god

Ok duke you may speak now

duke

2014-01-07 23:01:45 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist.

I have it.

still waiting for your evidence

Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

Post by b***@m.nu
dumbass go back and read other threads this has been done so many
times. However I will justcounter by saying if god creaated alll thing
what created god

Don't know.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-07 23:41:47 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
oh you poor little man. you are all mixed up... I am sorry I guess
they used the big words and you did actually grasp what they were
saying. I apologize

Then show a little evidence that God does not exist. I'm waiting.

Post by b***@m.nu
EVERYONE PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS FOR POOR LITTLE DOOKIE POOP

actually ass hat I dont need to provide evidence that god doesnt exist
since there is no evidence that a god does exist.

I have it.

still waiting for your evidence

Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

You have asserted a claim that you have never attempted to show is true.
The universe exists, but there is no evidence that it was created.

Do try again.

Post by b***@m.nu
dumbass go back and read other threads this has been done so many
times. However I will justcounter by saying if god creaated alll thing
what created god

Don't know.

b***@m.nu

2014-01-08 01:01:33 UTC

Post by duke
Ok. Creation of all things including the universe. Your turn.

Post by b***@m.nu
dumbass go back and read other threads this has been done so many
times. However I will justcounter by saying if god creaated alll thing
what created god

Don't know.

since you can not answer my question about what created your god then
it therefore nullifies you response. ya see my theroy of the creation
of the universe is far more accurate than a response of "I DONT KNOW"

duke

2014-01-01 22:09:01 UTC

Post by Dale
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

Are you really this stupid and hateful?

Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

linuxgal

2014-01-01 23:05:09 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Free Lunch

2014-01-02 00:47:26 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

linuxgal

2014-01-02 02:18:23 UTC

Post by Free Lunch
It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

And he's proud to portray his god so, without regard to the number of
potential converts he's driving away.

Free Lunch

2014-01-02 02:45:15 UTC

Post by Free Lunch
It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

And he's proud to portray his god so, without regard to the number of
potential converts he's driving away.

There seem to be a large number of self-described Christians who glory
in the fact that they expect a huge number of their acquaintances to go
to hell. I have no idea why they think they will not.

Jeanne Douglas

2014-01-02 10:06:48 UTC

Post by Free Lunch
It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

And he's proud to portray his god so, without regard to the number of
potential converts he's driving away.

There seem to be a large number of self-described Christians who glory
in the fact that they expect a huge number of their acquaintances to go
to hell. I have no idea why they think they will not.

Delusion.

August Rode

2014-01-02 03:23:54 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

Hard but not impossible. Every Christian seems to have their own concept
of God, one that happens by sheer chance to reflect their own attitudes
and prejudices.

Dale

2014-01-02 05:23:12 UTC

Post by August Rode

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

It's hard to believe that duke could possibly be as evil as the god he
invents for himself.

Hard but not impossible. Every Christian seems to have their own concept
of God, one that happens by sheer chance to reflect their own attitudes
and prejudices.

religion IS a personal phenomena, it only becomes communal with like
minded individuals

--
Dale

duke

2014-01-02 18:10:31 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-02 18:56:38 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

There is absolutely no evidence that eternity with God is an option.

duke

2014-01-05 17:23:11 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

There is absolutely no evidence that eternity with God is an option.

Out of ammo?

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

Free Lunch

2014-01-05 19:00:13 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

There is absolutely no evidence that eternity with God is an option.

Out of ammo?

Your stories are unsubstantiated. I don't need any ammo.

duke

2014-01-07 23:02:59 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

There is absolutely no evidence that eternity with God is an option.

Out of ammo?

Your stories are unsubstantiated. I don't need any ammo.

You don't have a gun either.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

b***@m.nu

2014-01-05 20:27:02 UTC

duke,

STILL NOT YOUR TURN TO TALK

b***@m.nu

2014-01-02 20:00:16 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

you stupid fucker it was your priests bishops and popes that did that
shit hundreds of years ago when someone did not believe what they did.
Man you are an ignorant fuck

duke

2014-01-05 17:24:41 UTC

Post by Joel
Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

They make great fuel for the fires.

Duke's malevolent god delights in burning people at the stake, and their
souls for eternity.

Nope, that's what people like you say is your preference to eternity with God.

you stupid fucker it was your priests bishops and popes that did that
shit hundreds of years ago when someone did not believe what they did.
Man you are an ignorant fuck

They did not believe what they believed? And you call me stupid?

Can you offer me any support, any at all, that there is no God?

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

b***@m.nu

2014-01-05 20:29:52 UTC

Post by duke
Can you offer me any support, any at all, that there is no God?

I can offer you this. IF god were real it would have never ever
created you. You are an embarassment to your faith.

since you are here.... there is no god

duke

2014-01-07 23:03:44 UTC

Post by duke
Can you offer me any support, any at all, that there is no God?

I can offer you this. IF god were real it would have never ever
created you. You are an embarassment to your faith.

Nah, he took care of the "embarrassment" issue when he created you.

duke, American-American
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
*****

b***@m.nu

2014-01-08 01:04:31 UTC

Post by duke
Can you offer me any support, any at all, that there is no God?

I can offer you this. IF god were real it would have never ever
created you. You are an embarassment to your faith.

Nah, he took care of the "embarrassment" issue when he created you.

Dookie poop strikes again.. Making no sense whatsoever... Duke you
should have said.. i am rubber and you are glue...... it would have
been much more intelligent that what you just said

b***@m.nu

2014-01-01 22:38:15 UTC

Post by Dale
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

Are you really this stupid and hateful?

Atheists are some of God's favorite people.

I wonder why that would be? Maybe because atheists dont have to lie
everday they wake up

Free Lunch

2014-01-01 16:36:58 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:17:52 -0500, Dale

Post by k***@baawa.com
Isn't this fun?

to some communal type people religion and laws forthcoming are VERY serious
sometimes I wonder if the motivation of SOME atheists is to avoid
communal responsibility
personally I think fair competition is every area outside human need,
with a moderate safety net, is a better solution than socialism, as all
large implementations have shown, maybe Cuba is small enough to suceed
but to me that just makes me more communally responsible
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

So you think that God was invented for communitarian purposes and to
control the sociopaths, but you attack unbelievers because they are
undermining the religious con.

Sadly, many of the sociopaths are part of the religious con.

Dale

2014-01-01 17:16:08 UTC

Post by Free Lunch
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:17:52 -0500, Dale

Post by k***@baawa.com
Isn't this fun?

to some communal type people religion and laws forthcoming are VERY serious
sometimes I wonder if the motivation of SOME atheists is to avoid
communal responsibility
personally I think fair competition is every area outside human need,
with a moderate safety net, is a better solution than socialism, as all
large implementations have shown, maybe Cuba is small enough to suceed
but to me that just makes me more communally responsible
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

So you think that God was invented for communitarian purposes and to
control the sociopaths, but you attack unbelievers because they are
undermining the religious con.
Sadly, many of the sociopaths are part of the religious con.

religion, minimally, is a construct to appeal or have others appeal to
the ultimate alpha being in the realm in which such religion exists

--
Dale

Free Lunch

2014-01-01 17:24:19 UTC

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:16:08 -0500, Dale

Post by Free Lunch
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:17:52 -0500, Dale

Post by k***@baawa.com
Isn't this fun?

to some communal type people religion and laws forthcoming are VERY serious
sometimes I wonder if the motivation of SOME atheists is to avoid
communal responsibility
personally I think fair competition is every area outside human need,
with a moderate safety net, is a better solution than socialism, as all
large implementations have shown, maybe Cuba is small enough to suceed
but to me that just makes me more communally responsible
some atheists are just plain anarchists I think, that is no fun for
anyone but God, in the long run, I AT LEAST want "my" piece of the fun
in life

So you think that God was invented for communitarian purposes and to
control the sociopaths, but you attack unbelievers because they are
undermining the religious con.
Sadly, many of the sociopaths are part of the religious con.

religion, minimally, is a construct to appeal or have others appeal to
the ultimate alpha being in the realm in which such religion exists

Since you clearly have disdain for religions and don't really accept any
of their claims about gods, why do you attack atheists with such
ferocity?

The Magpie

2014-01-02 16:35:40 UTC

On 31/12/2013 17:09, Dale wrote:> A TESTABLE THEORY

if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL[...snip]

So you don't know what "testable theory" means, eh?

The Magpie

2014-01-02 16:33:45 UTC

Post by Dale
A TESTABLE THEORY
if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL[...snip]

So you don't know what "testable theory" means, eh?

Dale

2014-01-02 17:43:47 UTC

I will admit a way I could be wrong

thoughts might be "models" of what is true

for instance, a 4d animated model of a baby doll isn't a an EXISTENTIAL
baby, but to the mind, inside the mind, the effect is the same

so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-02 20:03:41 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

no you stupid fuck god has no influence because god doesnt exist. BUT
lets say that god did have influence. Which god wouold that be out of
the billions and billions and billions of gods that are believed to
exist today which one exactly would be the influencer?

Dale

2014-01-03 01:48:25 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

never said I was Judea-Christian wholly, I pick the parts I like

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-03 03:55:33 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:48:25 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

never said I was Judea-Christian wholly, I pick the parts I like

as I said what god is it youi believe in. there are hundreds of named
gods and billions of personal gods. just wondering which is the one
you believe does the influencing

Dale

2014-01-03 05:38:07 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:48:25 -0500, Dale

Post by b***@m.nu
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

never said I was Judea-Christian wholly, I pick the parts I like

as I said what god is it youi believe in. there are hundreds of named
gods and billions of personal gods. just wondering which is the one
you believe does the influencing

paramatman does, the over-soul, the highest God

--
Dale

Dale

2014-01-03 01:54:13 UTC

I will admit a way I could be wrong
thoughts might be "models" of what is true
for instance, a 4d animated model of a baby doll isn't a an EXISTENTIAL
baby, but to the mind, inside the mind, the effect is the same
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

if thoughts are emergent from the whole of the existential and material
brain, then thoughts are AT LEAST existential and material

this is not to say that thoughts should be equated with anything else,
an intersection of sets

they might be disjoint from other sets of things, not the same as other
realities

but in my opinion, they have the same EFFECT on the conscious as if they
were intersected

so if you think of God your conscious experience in effected by that
thought, THE SAME, since the thought is in your conscious and an
existential and material part of your conscious experience

for instance, if you think or imagine a perfect baby doll that is
EXACTLY the same thing as a baby, then it is a EXACT baby in your
conscious experience

I don't think our mortal conscious can distinguish

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-03 03:57:36 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:54:13 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
for instance, if you think or imagine a perfect baby doll that is
EXACTLY the same thing as a baby, then it is a EXACT baby in your
conscious experience
I don't think our mortal conscious can distinguish

I did not read the entire reply you made however I think this is a
fair question WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Jeanne Douglas

2014-01-03 08:36:44 UTC

I will admit a way I could be wrong
thoughts might be "models" of what is true
for instance, a 4d animated model of a baby doll isn't a an EXISTENTIAL
baby, but to the mind, inside the mind, the effect is the same
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

if thoughts are emergent from the whole of the existential and material
brain, then thoughts are AT LEAST existential and material
this is not to say that thoughts should be equated with anything else,
an intersection of sets
they might be disjoint from other sets of things, not the same as other
realities
but in my opinion, they have the same EFFECT on the conscious as if they
were intersected
so if you think of God your conscious experience in effected by that
thought, THE SAME, since the thought is in your conscious and an
existential and material part of your conscious experience
for instance, if you think or imagine a perfect baby doll that is
EXACTLY the same thing as a baby, then it is a EXACT baby in your
conscious experience
I don't think our mortal conscious can distinguish

What is the point of all this gibberish?

Dale

2014-01-03 22:26:50 UTC

I will admit a way I could be wrong
thoughts might be "models" of what is true
for instance, a 4d animated model of a baby doll isn't a an EXISTENTIAL
baby, but to the mind, inside the mind, the effect is the same
so God may not exist when you think of him in your existential mind, but
a 4d model might be instantiated that effects the same thing TO THE
MIND, so God's influence exists

if thoughts are emergent from the whole of the existential and material
brain, then thoughts are AT LEAST existential and material
this is not to say that thoughts should be equated with anything else,
an intersection of sets
they might be disjoint from other sets of things, not the same as other
realities
but in my opinion, they have the same EFFECT on the conscious as if they
were intersected
so if you think of God your conscious experience in effected by that
thought, THE SAME, since the thought is in your conscious and an
existential and material part of your conscious experience
for instance, if you think or imagine a perfect baby doll that is
EXACTLY the same thing as a baby, then it is a EXACT baby in your
conscious experience
I don't think our mortal conscious can distinguish

What is the point of all this gibberish?

lack of legal opium to smoke ...

--
Dale

and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

2014-01-02 19:44:40 UTC

Post by Dale
A TESTABLE THEORY
if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL, then, everything IN
the brain is EXISTENTIAL too
also, ALL fictional/mythical/imaginary/religious things
that EXIST within the brain, like God, are EXISTENTIAL,
AT LEAST within the individual mind set or conscious
if there is a collective conscious, then, all things
thought of, exist in the mind set of ALL individuals,
EVERYWHERE THERE IS A BRAIN, AT LEAST
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions
and influence conceptions and the brain, not far off is
conceiving of God and interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

The term "God" is of Judeo-Christian construct.

Let me write briefly about "Paramatma". The word is made
up of "param" - supreme, and "aatmaa" - soul (approximate
translations). So Paramatma means Supreme Soul.

When writing in English we who follow Sanaatan Dharm,
also known as Hinduism, often use the terms "Paramatma"
and "God" interchangeably though not accurately.
Sanskrit, Hindi and other languages of Bharat (India)
came long before English, so the latter often lacks
backward compatibility in translation.

I am looking at the beautiful blue and turquoise ocean as
I write this.

Consider the ocean to be Paramatma, the Supreme Soul, in
this exercise. Now take an empty cup and immerse it in
the ocean. Keep it submerged. The cup is now filled with
water. Let's call it "individual soul". And the cup is
surrounded on all sides by the ocean or the Supreme Soul.
So although the cup does not contain the entire ocean, it
does contain the essence of the ocean.

Each of us is that cup, the "individual soul", and each
of us has in us the essence of Paramatma, or Supreme
Soul.

Thus Paramatma, or God if you will, exists within each
being.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj

and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

2014-01-02 20:01:14 UTC

Post by and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Post by Dale
A TESTABLE THEORY
if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL, then, everything IN
the brain is EXISTENTIAL too
also, ALL fictional/mythical/imaginary/religious things
that EXIST within the brain, like God, are EXISTENTIAL,
AT LEAST within the individual mind set or conscious
if there is a collective conscious, then, all things
thought of, exist in the mind set of ALL individuals,
EVERYWHERE THERE IS A BRAIN, AT LEAST
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions
and influence conceptions and the brain, not far off is
conceiving of God and interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

The term "God" is of Judeo-Christian construct.
Let me write briefly about "Paramatma". The word is made
up of "param" - supreme, and "aatmaa" - soul (approximate
translations). So Paramatma means Supreme Soul.
When writing in English we who follow Sanaatan Dharm,
also known as Hinduism, often use the terms "Paramatma"
and "God" interchangeably though not accurately.
Sanskrit, Hindi and other languages of Bharat (India)
came long before English, so the latter often lacks
backward compatibility in translation.
I am looking at the beautiful blue and turquoise ocean as
I write this.
Consider the ocean to be Paramatma, the Supreme Soul, in
this exercise. Now take an empty cup and immerse it in
the ocean. Keep it submerged. The cup is now filled with
water. Let's call it "individual soul". And the cup is
surrounded on all sides by the ocean or the Supreme Soul.
So although the cup does not contain the entire ocean, it
does contain the essence of the ocean.
Each of us is that cup, the "individual soul", and each
of us has in us the essence of Paramatma, or Supreme
Soul.
Thus Paramatma, or God if you will, exists within each
being.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
A fine and beautiful belief but show some evidence please.
bliss - hag of Eris, disciple of Discordia

Thank you. People have varying requirements for what they
consider to be evidence in such matters. What are yours?

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://tinyurl.com/JaiMaharaj

Dale

2014-01-03 01:52:53 UTC

Post by and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Let me write briefly about "Paramatma". The word is made
up of "param" - supreme, and "aatmaa" - soul (approximate
translations). So Paramatma means Supreme Soul.

yes, I am familiar with this term, I prefer it's definition, but use the
term God that most would be familiar without getting it to a war over
religion instead of just getting my point across, I think I will try to
use Paramatma more often and equate it with the word God, since I pick
and choose from various religions to form my own, Vedanta seems to be
the most detailed, although some others have a lot of good Dharma I add
to my collection too

thanks Dr. Jai

--
Dale

Dale

2014-01-03 01:58:08 UTC

what about the same effect? like a hallucination? how can you tell if
your whole life is not just a long hallucination?

--
Dale

b***@m.nu

2014-01-03 03:59:08 UTC

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:58:08 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions and influence
conceptions and the brain, not far off is conceiving of God and
interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

what about the same effect? like a hallucination? how can you tell if
your whole life is not just a long hallucination?

I realize I should let you finish this conversation with yourself but
I just thought I would sau ,uuuhhhh AHEM!!!

Dale

2014-01-03 05:38:56 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:58:08 -0500, Dale

Post by Dale
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions and influence
conceptions and the brain, not far off is conceiving of God and
interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

what about the same effect? like a hallucination? how can you tell if
your whole life is not just a long hallucination?

I realize I should let you finish this conversation with yourself but
I just thought I would sau ,uuuhhhh AHEM!!!

okay ... carry on

--
Dale

Malcolm McMahon

2014-01-04 09:46:38 UTC

True enough. But it's a different order of existence. The map is not the
territory. You can posses a detailed map which does not correspond to any
real territory. You can imagine all kinds of things which exist only
within the sphere of information.

Post by Dale
if there is a collective conscious, then, all things thought of, exist
in the mind set of ALL individuals, EVERYWHERE THERE IS A BRAIN, AT LEAST

But what evidence is there that such a collective consciousness exists?

And, if there was such a thing, it implies no special status for your
favourite god concept. It would be no more real or significant than, say,
Father Christmas.

Post by Dale
science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions and influence
conceptions and the brain, not far off is conceiving of God and
interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

Yes indeed, which threatens the propensity towards religious belief
without the need for any real God or gods to exist.

Y-Knot

2014-01-08 02:17:33 UTC

Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...

No proof either way is needed --
That's why it's called FAITH.

Freaking bunch of over-thinking idiots

...wasted bandwidth...

***************************************************888
"Dale" wrote in message news:***@news.alt.net...

A TESTABLE THEORY

if the WHOLE brain is EXISTENTIAL, then, everything IN the brain is
EXISTENTIAL too

also, ALL fictional/mythical/imaginary/religious things that EXIST
within the brain, like God, are EXISTENTIAL, AT LEAST within the
individual mind set or conscious

if there is a collective conscious, then, all things thought of, exist
in the mind set of ALL individuals, EVERYWHERE THERE IS A BRAIN, AT LEAST

science can been able to crudely interpret conceptions and influence
conceptions and the brain, not far off is conceiving of God and
interpreting it IN/FROM the brain

--
Dale

thomas p.

2014-01-08 07:44:44 UTC

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.

snip

--
thomas p

Ignorance is the mother of devotion.

David Hume

Bobbie Sellers

2014-01-08 15:28:46 UTC

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.
snip

Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny the
existence of the object of faith of others. Or maybe they have never
made mistakes in the objective (no faith required) world
and so never had a reason to question their own capacity for rational
decision.

bliss - "let you and him fight"

Dakota

2014-01-08 22:14:55 UTC

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.
snip

Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny
the existence of the object of faith of others. Or maybe they have
never made mistakes in the objective (no faith required) world
and so never had a reason to question their own capacity for rational
decision.
bliss - "let you and him fight"

I'm an atheist. I've made too many mistakes to count in the objective
world and in the subjective world. I constantly question my capacity
for rational decision. When it comes to "the object of faith of
others," I must admit I haven't considered all of them. The countless
gods mankind has invented throughout history makes doing so an
impossible task. Even if I were to restrict my consideration to the
god of today's three most common monotheistic religions - the
Judeo-Christian-Islamic god - I'd have to confront tens of thousands
of conflicting and incompatible beliefs held by their adherents. Given
that there is no credible verifiable objective evidence to assist me
in such consideration, I am forced to withhold belief in any of them.
As has often been said, they can't all be right but they can all be wrong.

I'm keen to learn how you chose between all of those beliefs before
choosing one. What evidence convinced you that you made the correct
choice? After all, people have to have faith in their own processes
which deny the existence of the object of faith of others. Maybe they
have never made mistakes in the objective (no faith required) world
and so never had a reason to question their own capacity for rational
decision.

Bobbie Sellers

2014-01-08 23:18:49 UTC

Post by Dakota

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.
snip

Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny
the existence of the object of faith of others. Or maybe they have
never made mistakes in the objective (no faith required) world
and so never had a reason to question their own capacity for rational
decision.
bliss - "let you and him fight"

I'm an atheist. I've made too many mistakes to count in the objective
world and in the subjective world. I constantly question my capacity for
rational decision. When it comes to "the object of faith of others," I
must admit I haven't considered all of them. The countless gods mankind
has invented throughout history makes doing so an impossible task. Even
if I were to restrict my consideration to the god of today's three most
common monotheistic religions - the Judeo-Christian-Islamic god - I'd
have to confront tens of thousands of conflicting and incompatible
beliefs held by their adherents. Given that there is no credible
verifiable objective evidence to assist me in such consideration, I am
forced to withhold belief in any of them. As has often been said, they
can't all be right but they can all be wrong.
I'm keen to learn how you chose between all of those beliefs before
choosing one. What evidence convinced you that you made the correct
choice? After all, people have to have faith in their own processes
which deny the existence of the object of faith of others. Maybe they
have never made mistakes in the objective (no faith required) world and
so never had a reason to question their own capacity for rational decision.

I examined the evidence of my own life and the events of the world
whereupon it became clear to me that the Goddess of Discord rules
all especially those with fixed belief systems. You can call her Eris
or Discordia makes no difference to Her. All over the world people
shed blood because they disagree with their cousins as to the exact
nature of whatever divinity they bother.

Don't bother Eris as She will treat you no better than
Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

bliss - avatar of Eris, disciple of Discordia...
Are you having a good time in the Kali Yuga?
Then praise Kali!
Hare Kali, Hare Kali, Kali, Kali, Hare Kali!
to be repeated ad lib until you are satisfied.
Some Westerners think Kali is merely a witch but she is
the supreme personification of Time much like Cronus,
but more vivid in her inactive activity.
And remember "Eat no Hot dog Buns on Fridays"

Jeanne Douglas

2014-01-09 02:36:17 UTC

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.
snip

Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny the
existence of the object of faith of others.

We deny nothing.

We just don't believe.

b***@m.nu

2014-01-09 05:47:57 UTC

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:36:17 -0800, Jeanne Douglas

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny the
existence of the object of faith of others.

We deny nothing.
We just don't believe.

why are people like this so bereft of knowledge about life in general.
They think everyones brain must be as slow and ill mannered as thiers.
Then reason because they cant think we cant think either.
Idiots alll of them.

R. Dean

2014-01-10 22:45:11 UTC

Post by Y-Knot
Either believe in a Higher Power or don't...
No proof either way is needed -- That's why it's called FAITH.

No faith is required to not believe something. That should be obvious.
snip

Well people have to have faith in their own processes which deny the
existence of the object of faith of others.

We deny nothing.
We just don't believe.

Does the fact that god's existence is beyond proof mean god doesn't
exist? Is it necessary to prove the existence of god?
If so _why_? To whom?

thomas p.

2014-01-09 10:17:56 UTC